Strictly my opinion.

[olderndirt]

Just flew my download of the Swift and it's as I feared - total Mickey Mouse.  Aeroplane Heaven has missed it again - all of their efforts seem to have sold at the seventy five percent complete stage.  Low price but lower quality.  I could have had a really nice box of chardonnay.  

[pivo11]

I'm gonna opt for the wine. 

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Fair enough, but please tell us why you think its bad. Not just bad, bad.
As I wrote in another thread, I´m totally biased on this one because noone else makes this kind of AC. On the other hand, what you wrote makes it look like you were totally biased the other way. Just like my relation with Carenado AC. I cant buy a Carenado AC. I´ve been let down so many times that I know I will not like it. I accept that and i know that our minds or brains sometimes play games with us. BTW, there´s a free demo of the swift to try.

[olderndirt]

Mar 6, 2015 3:22:07 GMT -5 @andresico said:

Fair enough, but please tell us why you think its bad. Not just bad, bad.
As I wrote in another thread, I´m totally biased on this one because noone else makes this kind of AC. On the other hand, what you wrote makes it look like you were totally biased the other way. Just like my relation with Carenado AC. I cant buy a Carenado AC. I´ve been let down so many times that I know I will not like it. I accept that and i know that our minds or brains sometimes play games with us. BTW, there´s a free demo of the swift to try.

Tried it again in the harsh light of day.  Perhaps not so much Mickey Mouse as just plain blah.  The engine sounds like a sewing machine gone beserk, the instruments look painted on (what is that AH?) and for a six banger 125 it feels like it's running on less.  With so many freewares out there far outclassing the Swift, how can they ask money for this level of quality? 

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I agree with the sound and I have told them. I will most probably just switch soundpackage. I also agree that it runs a little low on hp for being such a small AC with retractable gear but on the other hand, 125hp is not a lot. How many AC with 125hp do you fly?. I will most probably tune it a bit. I disagree with your feel about the instruments. I like them. But thats just taste and its a simple AC.

So, may I ask you: which freeware AC are far outclassing the Swift? (same kind of AC) I still find this AC to be better or even with many payware AC that cost a lot more.
Again, I believe that when we have strong ideas or feelings (being possitive or negative) about a Flightsim develloper, then its difficult for us to judge their product.

One day in the future, I will try fiddling with the old Bill Lyons air and AC.cfg files. Maybe make myself a 210hp version.

[olderndirt]

Mar 6, 2015 14:46:23 GMT -5 @andresico said:

I agree with the sound and I have told them. I will most probably just switch soundpackage. I also agree that it runs a little low on hp for being such a small AC with retractable gear but on the other hand, 125hp is not a lot. How many AC with 125hp do you fly?. I will most probably tune it a bit. I disagree with your feel about the instruments. I like them. But thats just taste and its a simple AC.

So, may I ask you: which freeware AC are far outclassing the Swift? (same kind of AC) I still find this AC to be better or even with many payware AC that cost a lot more.
Again, I believe that when we have strong ideas or feelings (being possitive or negative) about a Flightsim develloper, then its difficult for us to judge their product.

One day in the future, I will try fiddling with the old Bill Lyons air and AC.cfg files. Maybe make myself a 210hp version.

Piglet's PC6 leaps to mind along with Ant's Tigermoth.  Rachel's Navion is super and Brother Dave Garwoods's Austers ain't too shabby.  I just dropped the default Maule 260's engine in the Swift - a lot livelier.  Forgot to crank in the constant speed prop but other than that it purrs about 210 IAS on 20 inches.  Pitch trim is more stable becoming at times, hands off.  Takes longer to bleed off speed so your gear speed is a bit higher - no warning horn.

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Just heard on the ' grapevine'that a Patch is in the works in the near future.
Carm.

[olderndirt]

Mar 6, 2015 17:13:27 GMT -5 carm said:

Just heard on the ' grapevine'that a Patch is in the works in the near future.
Carm.

Sooner the better - it really needs a rudder.

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The piglet porter is nice but a very different specie and it has a flight dynamics issue that turns me of and which i try to fix: When you trim it to straight flight and give it 1 elevator trim down, it just continues on the same angle speeding up until you level it out with the yoke/stick. It does the same when putting elevator trim up, just loosens speed but continues with the same angle of climb. Thats really unrealistic and weird to fly. IMHO, It needs a patch or that someone capable of editing Air files works on it.
The tigermoth is a winner and worked as a PR for his payware AC. I have the Eaglet and its really good. Ant is a good and often forgotten develloper. I think that its mostly because he makes small, slow and unknown AC.

I got a mail from AH saying that a patch will be out soon, fixing the ADF and glideslope and maybe some other stuff. I dont know if they will fix the rudder. They say that the rudder is poor in the realworld Swift. In P3D it works well. I have no issues on crosswind landings and its even a bit on the agressive side on takeoffs. But then, I dont expect it to be a 15- 20 knot crosswind AC. It never was

[olderndirt]

The toggle for panel lights doesn't seem to work - instantly flips back to off position.  Upped my rudder effectiveness to 1.2 which makes it yaw nicely in the air but still the dance of death on landing roll out.  Try your elevator trim effectiveness at 1.2 (flight tuning section of acft.cfg) - gives me hands off straight and level.  Pitch trim in FS barely approximates that in a real plane.  The idea is to apply elevator pressure to hold the plane in place while relieving this pressure with trim.  Once it's close you can tweak it with trim and/or power.  In FS, with the only air flow being fans in the case, it's difficult to feel pressure thus you tend to chase trim.

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I have my rudder at 1.2, the parasite drag at 0.95 and engine power scale a 1.3.
It makes it cruise at some 120 knots at 1500 feet altitude. I approach and 80mph and try to set it down at no less than 70mph it make the landing roll out controlable.

This morning I have started to work with the Fs2004 Bill Lyons Swift FDE. The classical is slower than Aeroplane heavens FDE and there are some engine sound issues.
The 210hp version is easy to create. It cruises at 145 - 150knots and makes very swift rolls.
In general, both of Bill Lyons swift FDE are easyer to fly. Not what I remembered, but maybe its because I´m a better sim-pilot now. At least thats what I try to tell myself.

[Bushpounder]

After reading about the bugs on this plane, I have to ask - why was it released? Who beta tested this, Helen Keller? It seems many developers just throw something out and expect the public to test it. Then if there is nothing to do on a weekend, a patch may or may not be developed. Raise the prices up to 100 bucks a plane and you'll see the public scream about getting it right. 30-40 bucks isn't that much to gamble with. I've read comments on the forums - what do you want for 3o bucks? HA! How about a working plane!!! With only about 25% of simmers coming from r/w aviation, developers can get away with murder. Off the soapbox.

BP;)

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It's what I call "The Carenado Model". Hey, thanks to us (and maybe me most of all), it works. For them, that is. Not so much us.

[olderndirt]

One thing that really ticks me off about "Almost Heaven" is they, because the rudder was reputedly inadequate, intentionally modelled it to be inadequate - boy did they succeed.  Real life owners replaced the rudder with an aftermarket product - will AH do that?

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Well, those of you who havent tried the AC can download a demo to test.
I still like it a lot and I have no problems with what you call bugs. they will be fixed and dont blame a devellopper for making a rudder that works like the real world AC. Blame them if they didnt do so. (you can make the AC a lot easyer using Bill Lyons Air and aircraft files for the same bird)

Some of you guys talk a lot about "perfect". Being ORBX, being AC or whatever. This world is so far from being perfect, so how can you expect a 20,-$ piece of toy for older men to be perfect. 

I bought flysimware´s C402 6 month after its release. It was then version 1.5!!!  The ASI is in knots but showed MPH! I kindly wrote the develloper and they said, gosh, why didnt we se this one before and made a new patch. Cool enough for me.
Its one of the best AC addons that I have bought in a long time. I dont care if its not perfect looking (there´s something with the wing to body angle) doesnt look like a polished Carenado AC etc. Its a great medium/small twin and I use it a lot. I prefer it over my Milviz Baron.  

The easyest thing in the world is to write negative things on internet forums and even easyer if you havent tried what you comment on. AH is not the number 1 AC develloper, but IMHO, they are not so bad as some of you guys think. I prefer to support a develloper that is brave enough to devellop something different and not just Highwing Cessna and lowwing Piper GA, Boeing and Airbus (zzzzz) and that has a kind and understanding support. Its, of course, important that I like the product, which I do.

All that said, I agree that AH should consider their beta testing, should have finished the product some more, more than anything in order to avoid threads like this one, which is not good for business.