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Post by olderndirt on Dec 24, 2016 12:20:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 12:55:16 GMT -5
Wow! Merry Christmas to a whole bunch of people. I'm not one of them, but that's not because I don't think the price will be worth it. For those who get it, I'd love to read your comments .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 10:15:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the news Dave. A2A finally did it.. As much as I was waiting for this Sim, I'm holding off for a while. For those kind of bucks, I want to see what shakes out after the initial shock and shine of this A/C wears off. It will be interesting to see how this A/C compares with Manfred Jahn's Connie. I don't think he did a 649 though. Merry Christmas everyone. Carm.
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Post by Sandy on Dec 27, 2016 23:50:28 GMT -5
I might have bit at $30, maybe even $40. But $60? That's getting too rich, even if it is one of the sexiest aerial buses ever made. I'm interested in seeing some serious hands-on reviews, and in-sim performance thoughts on a machine that isn't bleeding edge new (ie: I have an aging machine that probably can't keep up <seems to be a theme for me today :/ > )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 11:18:42 GMT -5
Well, after keeping an eye on the A2A forums, I think I'll pass on their Connie. for the money they are asking, the snags etc have IMO exceeded the usual 'start up' stuff. That sim has its problems. Happy New Year all !!!!! Carm.
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Post by pivo11 on Dec 30, 2016 2:49:56 GMT -5
Nah, no Connie for me, either.
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Post by spud on Dec 30, 2016 12:07:15 GMT -5
The free one from the usual sites are good enough for this ol' dog.
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Post by Bushpounder on Dec 31, 2016 8:12:37 GMT -5
Manfred's is just fine with me! $90 damned dollars for a plane? That's crazy.
BP;)
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Post by penzoil3 on Dec 31, 2016 8:22:30 GMT -5
OK- I agree $ 90 is over the top. Try this one-
Male logic... flawless
This a conversation between a man and his wife. Please note that she asks five or six questions which he answered quite simply,
but then she is speechless after answering only one question. l bet this happens more often than not to most husbands out there:
Woman: Do you drink beer?
Man: Yes
Woman: How many beers a day?
Man: Usually about three
Woman: How much do you pay per beer?
Man: $5.00 which includes a tip (this is where it gets scary!)
Woman: And how long have you been drinking?
Man: About 20 years, I suppose
Woman: So a beer costs $5 and you have three beers a day which puts your spending each month at $450. In one year, it would be approximately
$5400 correct?
Man: Correct
Woman: If in 1 year you spend $5400, not accounting for inflation, the past 20 years puts your spending at $108,000 correct?
Man: Correct
Woman: Do you know that if you didn’t drink so much beer, that money could have been put in a step-up interest savings account and after accounting for compound interest for the past 20 years, you could have now bought an airplane?
Man: Do you drink beer?
Woman: No.
Man: Where is your airplane?
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Post by Bushpounder on Dec 31, 2016 8:24:02 GMT -5
That's how math works! BP;)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 8:26:09 GMT -5
Hey, it costs a lot to build in the kind of realism they do! You know, things like ailerons and elevators jamming in the full deflection position... . I'm sure it's a great airplane, but A2A lost me when they built in failures that included things like control surface malfunctions, and then defended (well, they didn't directly to me, but afterwards, yes) it as "real". My contention is that if they really want to be "real" then when you get something like that (and I had 3 major control surface failures, 2 of which resulted in a crash and burn in 6 months), then the A2A license should be invalidated and you can't fly the plane again for at least 6 months. After all, if you're dead, you're not flying, right? If they had simply put in things that could cause the engine to run rough or even to quit, and that only happened maybe once a year (tops), then they would have had me. But developers seem to either go too far or not far enough with this stuff. Real Air had it right - you could turn all that off permanently if you wanted (although they had a failure almost every flight on the Duke, but from what I've heard, that wasn't necessarily all that unrealistic <LOL>). You can turn it off with A2A, but you have to do it on every flight (and remember to do it). Honestly, in all the years I flew, the only control surface failure I ever experienced was the flaps on the 185 getting stuck in the 10* position because the spray on the takeoff got into the hinges and froze before I could get the flaps all the way up. No big deal. Oh, and I had one total engine failure as well, but that was self induced (duhh) - and I got it running again before landing. I did hear about a couple of other guys who did have control surface failures. Of course, they aren't around to talk about it. So tell me, where is the enjoyment in simming with an airplane that there is a reasonable chance of you virtually dying in on any given flight (I mean, a chance that FAR exceeds real life)? But yeah, THAT's why it costs $90 (plus the systems of course, which will be superb). The trouble is, lay people think this is a great challenge and admire (worship?) the "realism". If that were realistic, nobody would ever fly and no insurance company could afford to cover the airplane.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 8:31:03 GMT -5
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Post by Bushpounder on Dec 31, 2016 8:46:54 GMT -5
If you don't fly Manfred's properly, she will let you know. If you just firewall it and take off and leave it at full power, you WILL blow the engines up and deadstick it. That was a multi-crewed airplane, and to fly it properly, it would be tough to play all three people at once, which is how they were flown. BP
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 11:19:38 GMT -5
Yup, it takes three to tango. I find myself busy enough being both the left and right seat.
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Post by olderndirt on Dec 31, 2016 13:39:30 GMT -5
Intricate dance step - like to see a video of that .
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